Agenda and minutes

Licensing Committee - Tuesday, 17th October, 2023 6.00 pm

Venue: Council Chamber - Civic Centre, Poulton-le-Fylde. View directions

Contact: George Ratcliffe  Assistant Democratic Services Officer

Items
No. Item

20.

Declarations of Interest

Members will disclose any pecuniary and any other significant interests they may have in relation to the matters under consideration.

Minutes:

None.

21.

Confirmation of minutes pdf icon PDF 123 KB

To approve as a correct record the Minutes of the meeting of the Licensing Committee held on Tuesday 22 August 2023.

Minutes:

The minutes of the meeting of the Licensing Committee held on Tuesday 22 August 2023 were confirmed as a correct record by those who were in attendance.

22.

Exclusion of the public and press

In accordance with Paragraph 11 of the Access to Information Rules in Part 4 of the Council’s Constitution, the Chief Executive has determined that the report submitted under items 5 and 6 of this agenda is “Not for Publication” because it contains “exempt information”, as defined in Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act 1972.

 

 If the Committee agrees that the public and press should be excluded for these items, it will need to pass the following resolution:

 

 “That the public and press be excluded from the meeting whilst agenda items 5 and 6 be considered, as it refers to exempt information as defined in category 1 (information relating to any individual) of Part 1 of Schedule 12(a) of the Local Government Act, 1972, as amended by the Local Government (Access to Information) Variation Order 2006 and, that the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information”.

Minutes:

In accordance with Paragraph 11 of the Access to Information Rules in Part 4 of the Council’s Constitution, the Chief Executive had determined that the report submitted under agenda items 5 and 6 of the agenda was “Not for Publication” because it contained “exempt information”, as defined in Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act 1972.

 

The Committee passed the following resolution “That the public and press be excluded from the meeting whilst agenda items 5 and 6 were being considered, as it referred to exempt information as defined in category 1 (information relating to any individual) of Part 1 of Schedule 12(a) of the Local Government Act 1972, as amended by the Local Government (Access to Information) Variation Order 2006 and that the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighed the public interest in disclosing the information.”

 

23.

Application to licence a Private Hire Vehicle contrary to emissions standard policy

Report of the Corporate Director Environment.

Minutes:

The Chair invited the applicant and committee to go and inspect the vehicle being reviewed.

 

The Chair introduced the committee and the officers attending the meeting.

 

The applicant and his partner introduced themselves. The Chair ensured that they had received all necessary information and paperwork for the hearing.

 

The Senior Licensing Officer (SLO) introduced the report. He explained that the council’s Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Licensing Policy required that all new or replacement diesel fuelled motor cars must be a minimum of Euro 6 emissions rating and as the vehicle had an emissions rating of Euro 5, it therefore fell out of policy and was before committee for that reason.

 

The SLO explained the applicant’s history with the council and the applicant’s experience as a private hire driver. He outlined the council’s policy in terms of the protection of the environment, new or replacement vehicles needing to meet the emissions standards outlined in the policy and providing the travelling public with reasonably up-to-date vehicles. He highlighted the importance of this as it managed the emission of noxious fumes and diesel particulates in the Borough. He highlighted the relevant pieces of legislation and policy that would be useful for the committee to consider when determining their recommendation.

 

Gary Scott, Transport and Maintenance Team Manager, and Darren Morris, Fitter/Mechanic, entered the room and introduced themselves.

 

The applicant read out an email that Gary Scott had sent to the SLO which explained that his vehicle was a clean running engine but the main failure being the nitrogen oxide levels.

 

Councillor Rushforth highlighted concerns over climate change.

 

Councillor Baxter asked for clarification around the applicant’s Wyre Dual Driver’s Licence.

 

The applicant addressed the committee. He apologised for his failure and explained that he was unaware of the emissions policy. He said that due to the various work needed on his old vehicle, the best thing to do financially was look for another vehicle. He highlighted that it was a last minute decision which gave him limited time to do any research and look into the council’s policy. He explained that the distance he covered as a taxi driver in comparison with many other plated drivers was low.

 

Councillors raised the following questions/concerns over:

 

·         using the vehicle for weddings;

·         stickers, and;

·         air quality strategy framework

The applicant confirmed that he had paid for the stickers and that weddings were going to be a very small part of his business. He highlighted that the animosity towards out of town drivers was increasing exponentially. He explained that the area he worked in was reasonably close to where he lived and if he wasn’t granted a vehicle licence, the impact on the environment would be greater as taxi drivers from other areas would travel further to cover his jobs.

 

Councillor Leigh asked the SLO for clarification around carbon monoxide and hydrocarbon.

 

The applicant reiterated that in relation to meeting the standards for a Euro 6 vehicle, the vehicle only failed on nitrogen oxides, Gary Scott confirmed.

 

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24.

Using a vehicle as a Hackney Carriage without the appropriate licence in place

Report of the Corporate Director Environment.

Minutes:

The Chair introduced the committee and the officers attending the meeting.

 

The applicant and representative introduced themselves. The Chair ensured that they had received all necessary information and paperwork for the hearing.

 

The Chair mentioned that some of the committee had met the applicant’s partner and asked the applicant if he was still happy for the hearing to continue, the applicant said yes.

 

The Senior Licensing Officer (SLO) introduced the report. He explained that the applicant was before the committee because he allowed a hackney carriage vehicle licence to lapse in May 2023 and continued to use it for licensable activity without the relevant licence in place until September 2023.

 

The SLO explained the applicant’s history with the council and the applicant’s experience as a dual licence holder. He highlighted the relevant pieces of legislation and policy that would be useful for the committee to consider when determining their recommendation.

 

The representative spoke on behalf of the applicant. The representative highlighted that the applicant had an unblemished character and never been in any trouble with the authorities. He explained that he had a clean driver’s licence and the actions of the applicant were of an honest man who made a mistake.

 

Councillor Baxter asked the applicant how his partner fitted into the situation. The applicant described his partner as a sleeping partner.

 

Councillor Swatton asked the applicant why his partner was on the licence and why he was not aware that his licence was running out. The applicant explained that his partner was on the licence for insurance purposes and he was unaware of his licence running out as he did not understand the system.

 

Councillor Baxter asked the applicant how he was going to ensure this won’t happen again. The applicant explained that he had already made notes prior to the hearing of when his licences were due for renewal. The applicant took full responsibility.

 

The applicant, representative and Licensing Officer left the room to allow the committee to discuss their recommendation in private session.

 

In reaching its decision, the committee had regard to:

 

1.    The Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976

The Licensing Committee then reconvened and the Chair announced the decision.

 

Decision

 

The Committee decided not to take any further action.

 

Reasons for the decision

 

The Committee found the driver to be honest and accountable for his actions and noted that he accepted full responsibility for the mistake. The Committee acknowledged that it was a serious error, but noted that corrective measures had been put in place by the driver to ensure it never happened again.   Accordingly, the Committee were confident that the driver would not find himself in this position in the future and decided after taking everything into considerationthat it was appropriate not to take any further action.